Becoming Like Jesus | Matt Chandler | Episode 414
The Speakeasy
The Girl Named Blake
4.8 • 3.4K Ratings
🗓️ 13 May 2026
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Summary
This episode is an invitation to rethink what sanctification actually looks like. If you've felt pressure to transform yourself overnight or believed that becoming like Jesus should be faster and cleaner than it is, this conversation will meet you right where you are.
I sat down with Matt Chandler to talk about sanctification, suffering, surrender, and the slow process of spiritual formation. This feels less like an interview and more like a mentoring session with someone who has walked with God through incredible highs and devastating lows.
Matt makes the case that becoming like Jesus is not a light switch flipping on, it's an oak tree slowly growing over time. An oak becomes strong through rain, sunlight, dry seasons, storms, and deep freezes. In the same way, spiritual maturity develops through every season of life, not just the easy ones.
In this episode, Matt walks through what spiritual formation actually looks like:
- Sanctification is messy and non-linear, but every turn moves you forward
- Growth starts with humility and surrender, not strength or self-reliance
- God is not waiting for you to fail, He's cheering your growth like a loving Father
- When you mess up, run toward God, not away from Him
- Suffering is often where we grow most because God meets us there
- Community is essential, you cannot become like Jesus in isolation
Rather than perfection and performance, Matt shares the invitation to stay close to Jesus, let Him transform you over time, and trust Him in every season. Nothing is wasted. God uses it all to form us into the image of Jesus.
Becoming like Jesus is slow, messy, humbling, and beautiful. This episode is about surrendering the pressure to fix yourself and letting Jesus do the transforming work. If you don't quit, you win.
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| 0:00.7 | Welcome back to the Speakeasy podcast. |
| 0:03.0 | Today I have one of the people that I think I would put on my Mount Rushmore of faith if I had one. |
| 0:11.6 | Matt Chandler, he's a big deal to me. |
| 0:13.9 | I kind of wish I would have been recording when we first got on this Zoom because my entire family piled in to meet him and say hi because he's a big deal to me |
| 0:23.2 | and therefore by proxy they know who he is and consider him a big deal. |
| 0:28.3 | I don't think we've ever actually done that before on a call. |
| 0:31.5 | So his new book is coming out, becoming like Jesus. |
| 0:35.6 | And I really treated this like a one-on-one with Matt |
| 0:41.0 | Chandler, where I just asked him my really nitty-gritty questions about sanctification and the |
| 0:49.1 | process of becoming more like Jesus and walking out life with Jesus because if you are unfamiliar, |
| 0:55.6 | Matt has walked through really hard things. |
| 0:57.8 | He's had really high highs and really low lows, but has always, at least to me, been a man |
| 1:04.0 | of God and a man of character. |
| 1:06.2 | And he seemed like a really good person to ask these questions of like, okay, but actually, |
| 1:12.4 | how do we surrender our will to the Lord? And what does this all look like? And so you pretty much |
| 1:21.1 | are getting to listen into what I would consider a mentoring session with Matt Chandler. I hope you enjoy. |
| 1:33.3 | Thank you. a mentoring session with Matt Chandler. I hope you enjoy. Oh, Matt, welcome to the speakeasy. |
| 1:35.9 | Listen, I love a good speakeasy. So I'm pretty pumped about this. |
| 1:39.7 | This is a good one, too. This is a fun one. Yeah, that's what I heard. That's what I heard. |
| 1:43.3 | I personally feel as though you need no introduction. |
| 1:47.0 | Like, you don't in my world, but for the people who are unfamiliar, can you tell us a little |
| 1:52.2 | bit about yourself to kick us off? |
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