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Big Blue Banter: A New York Giants Football Podcast

BBB in 10: Giants got one over on the NFL with Isaiah Hodgins

Big Blue Banter: A New York Giants Football Podcast

Blue Wire

Sports News, Football, Sports, News

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 27 June 2023

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

Love the Giants' banter but don’t have an hour? Check out a new segment, “Big Blue Banter in 10 (or so!),” where you’ll find some of the hottest takes from the most recent show banter. Dan and Nick discuss how Joe Schoen struck gold in Isaiah Hodgins and how the young receiver helped the Giants transform their offense. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

You can group in Fabian Moreau.

0:01.4

You can group in Nick McLeod into this conversation. But to focus on Isaiah Hodgins, Dan, how many wide receivers get claimed to a team that they are not familiar with? And yes, I know he was with Brian David with the bills. But still, a team, a different environment, a different quarterback that he hasn't worked with has, does not have a report with him. How many times do you see a wide receiver who is relatively unknown,

0:21.3

a six round pick out of Oregon State a couple years prior come into a team and then be one of the

0:25.9

focal points of the offense, not only one of the focal points of the offense, but help transform

0:31.2

the offense from this stagnant 12 personnel. We're going to try to run the football and kick field

0:36.2

goals. We don't have really the

0:37.7

ability to create explosive plays. Our 11 personnel quick passing game is hit or miss.

0:43.0

Transform that offense into a consistent 11 personnel approach that also assisted the running game.

0:48.3

Because remember, the running game sucked in 12 personnel. Then it got a fishing out of 11 personnel

0:51.9

the way defenses were playing the New York Giants. I think there was a sound and reasonable argument to be made. The impetus to that was Isaiah Hodgins. And I think a lot of that, and we brought this up before, and I've actually heard a reference since we brought it up by somebody about the Detroit Lions game. The Detroit Lions game, the Giants were getting their asses kicked. They lined up like 90% and 11 personnel. Isaiah Hodgins went out there. It's not like he was overly productive in that game. I think he only had like three catches, but you're getting valuable reps in an offense that is a little bit foreign to you with Daniel Jones as your quarterback. During that game, remember what happened. Wondell Robinson got injured. So that put even more pressure on Isaiah Hodgins to step up, along with

1:27.6

Darius Slayton because the wide receiver room was just getting decimated at that point. And Isaiah Hodgens seized the day. He full on avenged sevenfold the entire situation and ended up taking this offense to a level that we did not necessarily believe it could reach. And that's something that we talked about all throughout the season. If you go back and listen to some of our old podcast, we're like, look, we just want to see consistency from Daniel Jones

1:27.2

and the passing attack. We're not seeing consistency. All we were doing was bitching about the Giants offense in Houston. We're like, yeah, Seiguan Barclay at 36 touches, 35 carries against the Houston Texans, and they won. But how sustainable is that? It's not really all that sustainable in the modern NFL, but the presence of Isaiah Hodens allowed Daniel Jones to flourish in 11

1:44.3

personnel. but how sustainable is that? It's not really all that sustainable in the modern NFL, but the presence of Isaiah Hodgins allowed Daniel Jones to flourish in 11 personnel quick-hitting

2:05.6

offense led by Mike Kafka and Brian Daible. And I think just identifying, Joe Shane identifying

2:10.9

that this player has that type of potential was one of the more excellent moves that we've seen

2:15.0

from this general manager. Yeah, you nailed this one. This one for me claiming Isaiah Hodgins is number two on my list. And if there wasn't a far and away, runaway pick for number one, this would be number one for me. It's definitely a tier drop between this and three and even four and five. To me, this is where he differentiates the stuff to the GM. And I do appreciate the claims of like Nick McLeod and all those other players. I don't follow 32 other teams, Nick, but I do get the feeling there are some more claims like McLeod's out there. It's hard to say. But I don't think there's many kinds of claims like Isaiah Hodgians that go down in a single season, let alone, like if you really looked at it, a few years. You probably have to go every few years to find somebody who makes that kind of impact right away after being claimed at a position where, yes, you mentioned he played in Buffalo. He kind of knew what Dable was all about, but it's not the same system. Brian Dable's working with Mike Kafka. Mike Kafka has some of his own concepts involved in this offense. The, you know, even the terminology is probably different. And most importantly than any of that, the quarterback's different. He had to build his rapport with Daniel Jones. And we know how important rapport is for a quarterback on a wide receiver and for an NFL passing game. He had to build that from scratch within days to then get on the field like you mentioned. And like you said, he wasn't all the productive, but he was kind of when you look at the routes he ran and how he got open. And they knew it right away to the Giants because right away they started to design plays to get him the football. And right away, you saw with Isaiah Hodgins, the rapport built with Daniel Jones just snap like that. Isaiah Hodgins,

3:43.2

I think, had an 84% catch percent. That's on targetable catches around him. And he didn't

3:51.1

drop an actual pass on the season. Scored a touchdown in four of his last five games. I felt like

3:56.0

he really developed in the red zone as a

3:57.8

receiver. His timing with Daniel Jones was excellent there. It felt like on scramble drills where

4:02.7

Jones would climb the pocket and moved to his right laterally. Isaiah Hodgians knew exactly

4:07.0

where to go to get open. It felt like on those quick whip routes, he did a great job of

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