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Balancing the Contradictory Elements of an Enneagram 5w4, feat. Jason Adam Miller [S07-007]

Typology

Ian Morgan Cron

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4.63.2K Ratings

🗓️ 31 August 2023

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

There’s no such thing as a pure personality type. We’re all a mash up of two types – your dominant type and your dominant wing. Knowing your wing is important because they reveal a whole different side of your personality and can explain contradictory elements within your personality. Enneagram Fives are edged between the passionate, intense Four on one side and the loyal but anxious Six on the other. Depending on their dominant wing, these two can look very different.

Today, we explore how an Enneagram Five with a dominant Four wing processes and experiences things very intensely on both the intellectual and feeling planes. Jason Adam Miller describes this complicated relationship as “as a civil war between the two.”

Tune in for an inside look through the lens of an Enneagram 5w4 and how Jason has learned to balance the two.

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Jason Adam Miller is the founder and lead pastor of South Bend City Church, an eclectic Christian community known for its thoughtful teaching, inclusive vision, and commitment to its city context. An advocate for artists and peacemakers, his work beyond South Bend focuses on cultural headwaters and conflict zones, where he serves an international constituency of leaders. He holds a master’s degree in theology from the University of Notre Dame.

https://www.jasonadammiller.com/

https://www.instagram.com/jasonadammiller/

https://southbendcitychurch.com/

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0:00.0

Hello, typology friends. This is Ian Morgan-Kron, your host at the show on which we explore

0:09.1

the mystery of the human personality and dare I say the human adventure through the lens

0:14.6

of the Enneagram. I'm with my good friend, Anthony Skinner. He is in Franklin, Tennessee.

0:20.4

I am in San Miguel de Ayende, Mexico. Anthony, what's up brother?

0:25.9

Well, I'm particularly excited about this interview today because I have a question.

0:30.0

I, so you know, I'm a songwriter, right? Yeah. And I was just at an event with Chris Martin

0:35.3

from Coldplay lately. Yeah. And I was with him and I told him I said, dude, has anybody ever said

0:41.2

you look just like Jason Miller? And I wanted to have Jason if it's ever happened to him.

0:51.2

Okay. That has come up. All right. All right. This is great. So now you have preempted my

0:56.9

introduction, but that is perfectly fine. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Chris, Chris Martin

1:02.7

of Coldplay to typology Enneagram 7 with a 7-Wing. I used to play piano. I was a piano playing

1:12.6

worship leader. So the comparisons were even more pronounced. Wow. Back in the day. Oh my word.

1:17.5

Well, everybody, listen, here's the formal introduction. We have on board with us today.

1:22.1

Jason, Adam Miller, Enneagram 5 with a 4-Wing pastor and author of the new book When the World

1:28.4

Breaks, The Surprising Hope and Subversive Teachings of Jesus. Jason, welcome to typology.

1:34.6

Hey, thanks. I'm thrilled to be here. I love listening to your podcast. So it's fun to be here with you.

1:39.3

Well, it's, it's wonderful to have you on. We have a mutual friend in Seth Abrams who just

1:44.5

pinged me to tell you that he said, hey, he's been on the show as well and so shout out to Seth. We're

1:51.3

glad you're here. So Enneagram 5s, we'd love to get him on the show in part sometimes because

1:57.6

they're hard to get on the show because they're not exactly raising their hand to be noticed a lot

2:03.7

of the time. And so one of the things I wanted to ask you about is obviously how did you learn about

2:09.5

the Enneagram and what did you think when you first discovered you were a 5? Yeah, so I love

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