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Welcome to Untangle, the podcast from Muse, the brain sensing headband, and meditation studio,

The Five Star App. I'm Patricia Carpice. As always, we hope you'll check out Muse on

Choosemuse.com. A great product for starting or deepening your meditation practice.

Today's guest is a friend and one of my favorite humans on the planet,

Cotian Paley Ellison. He's a Zen teacher, youngian psychotherapist, and co-founder of the New York

Zen Center, where he and his partner Chodo have numerous trainings and gatherings.

His new book is called Ironically Untangled, walking in the eightfold path to clarity,

courage, and compassion. The book takes us through the process of creating profound change,

both inside and out. Life can be so fragile and subject to ever-changing circumstances,

good, messy, difficult, and all of the

above, and these changes have the tendency to tangle us up in our own web of stories.

This, he says, tends to create suffering.

So Cotian offers many insights and inspiration for how we can untangle the tangles, allowing for greater clarity

and acceptance. We can learn how to find balance with the whole range of joy and pain. He says that we

can't actually be free until we can be still with our pain,

and that everything we encounter in life can be a place of practice.

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