Hi this is Hope.

is Kereen.

This is Katie from Washington DC and you're a l'anome

athlete radio. Hey everyone Matt Frazier and Doug Hay here with another episode of No Meat

Athlet radio and I'm really excited about this one this is an interview

tonight actually Doug you're not going to be here for this interview unfortunately

because our guest whose name is Harvey actually Doug you're not going to be here for this interview unfortunately because

our guest whose name is Harvey Lewis

he won the bad water 135 this year

which is only I don't know

two three months ago now uh... he's a school teacher he works he's not a

pro runner as at least as far as his main job goes he has a day job he teaches

social studies in Cincinnati so he's available at nighttime only, so it's going to be just me, but I am really looking forward to that because as I've mentioned several times, like whatever I was on the book tour and people asked me, they said, okay, so what's your big goal? I would encourage everyone to have some kind of big crazy goal.

And I was always sort of hesitant to give it, but like my dream race one day

would be to go do bad water.

And I'm kind of a long way off in there because it takes 300 mile

runs just to you know apply to be even be considered and even then they're getting

hundreds of applicants who are way more qualified than I am for sure at least from a

running perspective so So that's

sort of my long stretch goal and I don't think my family would be super into it.

So I don't know I'm hesitant to say that's my goal because I haven't I have not

made a commitment to say I want to do this thing yet but that's why I'm interested because it's a guy who's a vegetarian won that with a normal job and putting in not not that crazy week so I'm really looking forward to this one to hearing

...