Hey everybody. Welcome to the writing room with Bob and Kim.

And I just think that this great time, whether you aspire to write a book or you're just like following along.

You just maybe read a couple good ones usually

when you read a book that you like it's because you have one in you and no better person to

describe that than our friends annie and neil and you may have bumped into any here and there

on some books but i think you're about to bump into Neil, too.

Welcome to the podcast.

Thank you, Bob.

Hi, Bob.

It's just so good being with you guys, and I'm so stoked. Your book is out. Congratulations.

Thank you.

I'm going to get Kim the first question. Kim, go ahead. Like the floor is yours. Have you noticed how calm I've been so far? Do I get points? You're totally doing great. Because we have Alamont on here and Neil, the guy who has captured her heart and also is a phenomenal writer. You guys, this book is beautiful. This is a beautiful book. You have,

and I know you have inspired roughly 80 million people with bird by bird, and some people

quote it as if it is a gospel. It's that good. But this book as well is just going, I have no predictive capabilities, but if I were going to bet,

this is going to stand on the shelf for decades to come. I love the format. I love the content. I love

the voice, the whole kitten caboodle. And I want to ask you first about what it's like to collaborate. Careful,

careful, because when this calls over, you're still in the same room. But how does that go?

I wonder if there are any unexpected pitfalls of writing a book together and maybe unexpected

graces too. I can say there really weren't any pitfalls, partly because Neil did a lot of the heavy lifting.

He'd written these 36 rules up years ago, and in fact gave them to me on our fourth date 10 years ago.

And they turned into a book, Good Writing, 36 Ways to Improveer Sentences.

And I said bitterly to him one day, you know, I know something about writing Neal.

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