I'm Claire Fallon and I'm Emma Gray and this is Love to See It, an obsessively detailed

recap podcast about reality dating shows like The Bachelor and other pop culture that makes us laugh, cry, and curse the patriarchy.

We can't live with these shows and we can't live without them, but we can break down every juicy moment and unpack all the weird messages these shows send us about love, sex, and dating.

Welcome to Love to See It, a podcast about two women trying to save their friendship from collapsing amid just an onslaught of F-boys and Bachelor production tricks.

I mean, things are just starting to get rough this week. It's week three of the Gabby and Rachel co-season of The Bachelor at and the two women are just desperately clinging to their friendship.

While the show and a lot of the men seem more and more determined to just pit them against each other.

This week we're joined by author of the books Cultish and Wordslet and host of the Sounds Like a Cult podcast Amanda Montel.

Amanda, thank you for joining us for in this, in my opinion, I think this is a pretty culty episode.

Oh, indeed. It is a gift and a pleasure to be joining you.

Talk about this. Just goldmine. The incredible work of art.

Thank you, me and yeah, we are so happy to have you.

Yes, so many psychological breakdown tricks to disguise.

Things really get bleak this episode, but at the beginning it seems like things are going so well.

I mean, the men are chilling on the mansion. Gabby and Rachel are chilling on their balcony under cozy blankets, having just a morning strategy, sash, like two girlfriends.

It seems like it was a cold week.

Yeah, they're all free.

All the time.

All the time.

And they're trying to figure out like, when are we going to figure out where the guys are leaning, like which way the guys are going?

Because we need men who are assertive and can make a decision.

And there are still some guys lingering in the middle, which Gabby describes as kind of sketch.

And I mean, Rachel agrees.

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