I'm Claire Fallon and I'm Emma Gray and this is Love to See It, an obsessively detailed

recap podcast about the bachelor and other pop culture that makes us laugh, cry and curse

the patriarchy. We can't live with these shows and we can't live without them, but we

can break down every juicy moment and unpack all the weird messages these shows send us

about love, sex and dating.

Welcome to Love to See It, a podcast about one man trying to figure out which woman in

Iceland least wants to get engaged to him so that he can propose to her.

Extremely, extremely logical. This week Clayton keeps blundering around just deeper and

deeper into a mess, mostly of his own making, as he tries to desperately convince his final

to to stay and meet his parents so that he can presumably then break up with them. We'll

see it's all a fucking mess from start to finish.

Here to go through this moment of collective misery and rage is defective media, co-owner

and host of normal gossip, Kelsey McKinney. Kelsey, thank you for joining us.

Thank you both so much for having me here to experience the terror of last night all

over again. I'm thrilled. I know, I know. I mean, we're sorry, but also I feel that we

needed a friendly face and a calming presence to get through this. So I'm personally grateful

to you.

And I think we should just get right into it because I spent last night just head down

transcribing everything that was set on this episode because I was like, this is unprecedented,

I need to record everything. If we don't start, this podcast is going to be six hours

long. So let's just let's just go because it's a live God damn finale. Oh yeah. And we

are all going to find out together what happens. You, me, Jesse Palmer is going to find out

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