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The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Award-winning chef José Andrés on cooking, creativity, and learning from the best

The Gray Area with Sean Illing

Vox Media Podcast Network

Politics, News, News Commentary, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.511.1K Ratings

🗓️ 29 November 2016

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

José Andrés isn't just a chef. He's a force. All that talk of how DC is now a hot dining scene? Andrés deserves more than a bit of the credit. He's popularized Spanish tapas through Jaleo, brought El Bulli-style molecular gastronomy to America through MiniBar, and racked up some Michelin stars and James Beard awards along the way.Andrés has hosted television shows, taught courses on the science of cooking at Harvard, extended his restaurant empire to Las Vegas and South Beach, set up a nonprofit in Haiti, and launched a fast-casual chain focused on vegetables. He's been named "Man of the Year" by GQ and one of the world's 100 most influential people by Time. I've known Andrés for a couple of years, and I've never met a better storyteller, or seen anyone who thinks harder about the component parts of creativity.  We talk about that, as well as:-What Andrés learned from his father-Why the most important job when making paella is tending the fire-Why cooking at home is important but not essential-What he makes of Americans eating out of the house more than ever before-Why we need to be pragmatic about sourcing food-How he applies what he learned in the Spanish navy to his restaurants-What he learned from Ferran Adrià, the founder of molecular gastronomy-How he takes ideas from other disciplines and applies them in his kitchens-How important hiring is to him and why immigration policy is so crucial to the American restaurant business-Why his fast-casual restaurants called Beefsteak are nearly meatless-How he's managed to run an empire while remaining focused on the creative side-What he thinks we might lose by eating synthetic food or soylent-The one dish he thinks people should learn to cookDo you eat? Do you think? Then listen to this.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

The following podcast contains explicit language.

0:12.2

Hello and welcome to the Ezra Klein Show.

0:14.4

I am Ezra Klein and my guest this week is Jose Andres,

0:17.7

who is one of the truly great chefs working in America today.

0:22.0

He is the mind behind bizarre behind Haleo behind minibar,

0:26.8

behind the new fast casual, most of vegetarian chain beef steak.

0:31.8

He is a brilliant, strange, super creative guy.

0:35.0

He worked with Fraud Adrià at El Buli in its early days.

0:37.9

So he had a front row seat to the beginning of the molecular

0:40.4

gastronomy revolution.

0:41.6

He is as much as anyone really responsible for DC's

0:44.7

resurgence or emergence as an actually great food city.

0:49.0

As part of that, DC just got its first Michelin rankings and

0:51.7

sure enough, there was minibar Jose's place with two Michelin

0:54.8

stars, which is pretty cool.

0:56.8

He is a really interesting thinker on management, on food,

1:01.4

on whether it's ethical to eat meat, on how to run big organizations,

1:06.1

on how to be creative, on how to use other fields, innovations in

1:09.5

your own field.

1:10.6

This is a conversation that goes in a lot of directions.

1:13.3

As he does, we talk about his charity work, we talk about his

1:16.7

business, we talk about cooking, what one dish he wishes people

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