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Shift: A podcast about mobility

AVs, anthropology and the Moral Crumple Zone (Episode 4)

Shift: A podcast about mobility

Automotive News

Business

4.637 Ratings

🗓️ 29 April 2019

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of Shift, Pete talks to Jessica Robinson from the Michigan Mobility Institute about the region’s talent pipeline. That’s followed by a conversation with anthropologist Madeleine Clare Elish about her research paper Moral Crumple Zones: Cautionary Tales in Human-Robot Interaction.

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0:00.0

Shift is brought to you by Urban Science.

0:03.0

See how we've been guiding business through science for 43 years at Urban Science.com

0:08.0

slash Auto News. Welcome everyone to our latest episode of Shift, a podcast about mobility. My name is Pete Bigelow. I'm your host and I am very

0:26.5

excited about today's episode in which we will be speaking with two people with

0:30.9

anthropology backgrounds. What does anthropology have to do with

0:35.2

automated vehicles and mobility? Surprisingly a lot. Joining me on today's

0:40.4

podcast will be Madeline Claire Elish, a cultural

0:43.2

anthropologist whose work examines the social impacts of AI and automation on

0:47.4

society. But first today we'll be speaking with Jessica Robinson, executive

0:51.9

director of the Michigan Mobility Institute, a new nonprofit that formed in January of 2019 to help examine workforce issues and develop talent for a new mobility industry.

1:03.5

And that's a particularly timely topic.

1:05.9

Last week, Waymo announced that it would refurbish

1:08.7

a old American axle factory in the heart of Detroit. Now it will be repurposed so Waymo can retrofit vehicles with

1:16.1

self-driving systems. I think it's a perfect segue into our conversation with Jessica Robinson.

1:21.4

Welcome, Jessica.

1:22.4

Thanks, it's great to. Welcome, Jessica.

1:22.8

Thanks.

1:23.8

So why don't we just kick this off?

1:26.4

Tell us a little bit about the Michigan Mobility Institute.

1:29.1

It's pretty new and what the general goals are.

1:32.2

So the Michigan Mobility Institute launched in January and we exist solely to focus on mobility talent

1:39.0

largely here in Detroit.

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