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slash Auto News. Welcome to episode 3 of the Shift Podcast, a podcast about mobility.

I'm Pete Bigelow from the Automotive News.

And I'm Sharon Cardi.

This week we'll be talking to Navigant research analyst Sam Abil Samid

who will join us here shortly.

But first Sharon, as we know this week is the New York Auto Show and there's a lot of interesting

cars being unveiled there.

Some of the more interesting aspects might be happening outside the show.

Yeah, I mean New York is sort of one of the great test places for mobility issues, right?

It's completely jammed up with congestion.

They have tried for years to try and figure things out.

And I remember, you and I both grew up outside of

New York City watching New York City media. So I remember back I think in the late 80s

when they came up with they put grids in between on all the

intersections right this is the way to like stop people from pulling into the

center of an intersection in yellow light and just jamming up traffic right so they

put a grid and if you were caught in that grid on a red light you got like a you

know massive fine don't block the box.

Exactly, but you've got a better memory than I do.

So they've been trying stuff for a really long time.

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