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I'm John Batchel.

Sophie Petter is the author of Revolution Francais,

The Quest to Reinventination.

This is Emmanuel Macron's political biography.

We've spent moments with his childhood

and his beloved drama teacher who becomes his beloved wife,

the First Lady of France now.

But it's important to identify where he learns politics and how he interprets that today.

He founds a party in April of 2016 called On Marsh, On the Move.

And he found it by going back to Amiens.

And there's a moment that it's clear in Sophie's book.

Nobody's quite inspired by why he goes to Amiens.

He has no relationship with it.

Well, he left Amiens when he was 17 years old, I believe, and went off to finish his

school, his back in Paris, but then he was interested in becoming a literateur, not a politician

whatsoever. And Sophie, this is another one of those moments where you speculate in the book.

He could have been the novelist

that he wants to be. He's written three novels that he won't show to anybody but Brigitte.

He's extremely well educated in French literature, in international literature, but he fails to get

into the school where all the literary superstars of France go. Instead, he gets into Science Poe.

What is Science Poe to the French?

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