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Music to today's episode. I'm going to start us off with a question for you, too, Kela and Goulter.

When you guys were back in the dating field, I don't know how long ago that's been for each of you,

but how much did you know about attachment styles back then when you were not the therapist that you are today?

I would say like a four out of ten.

I mean, later, it kind of depends like when in dating we're thinking about because I was, if you guys remember, I was single for a long time.

And so I dated for, remember.

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