My son finished college recently, but when he was very young, three or four years old, he became

aware of King Kong.

I don't know how it came up.

And King Kong was fascinating to him, and pretty scary.

And he asked me if King Kong was a monster, if he was a bad guy.

And I said, no, I think he's just misunderstood. King Kong was a monster if he was a bad guy. And I said, no, I think he's just misunderstood.

King Kong was living his life on this island doing King Kong things. And then, you know,

these guys show up and attack him and take him away from home. And Kong wanted to be home. He wanted to stay home. He wanted to get home.

And he felt the need to protect himself. And because he's huge and strong, that was really scary

for the humans because they didn't take the time to understand the guy and the situation he was

in. King Kong was misunderstood. Same with Frankenstein, I said,

which was a whole other conversation that we then needed to have. When you understand something

scary, it's usually not as scary. You can understand the motivations of this no longer a monster.

Figure out how to live with it or avoid it,

whatever's best. That can go for really tall apes or for something else scary. Mental illness.

Anxiety is really scary if it's misunderstood. If you see it as a harmful force hurting you for no reason, that's scary. It's not as scary when you understand it might be your mind's way of protecting you. Doing a bad job of it,

sure, maybe using out-of-date information, but trying. So you learn to work with it, Make it not so scary. Depression sucks and lies,

but to some extent it's trying to make sure you don't get hurt by not letting you feel anything.

We try to help you understand mental health on this program in order to make it not so scary.

And we're not the only ones making that effort.

It's Depression Mode. I'm John Moe. I'm glad you're here.

Another way to put that is,

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