Are You Mad At Me? with Meg Josephson

MeSsy with Christina Applegate & Jamie Lynn Sigler

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Personal Journals, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture

4.9 • 3.7K Ratings

🗓️ 16 December 2025

⏱️ 76 minutes

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This week, Christina and Jamie are joined by Meg Josephson, author of “Are You Mad at Me?: How to Stop Focusing on What Others Think and Start Living for You.” They discuss the fawn response, how to start healing, the importance of taking a pause, and more. Executive Producers: Christina Applegate, Jamie Lynn Sigler, and Allison Bresnick Audio Engineer: Josh Windisch This episode is sponsored by: ZocDoc - Stop putting off those doctors appointments and go to Zocdoc.com/MESSY to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today. Wild Grain - Wildgrain is offering our listeners $30 off your first box - PLUS free Croissants in every box - when you go to https://Wildgrain.com/MESSY to start your subscription. iRestore - Unlock your best skin with @iRestorelaser and HUGE savings on the iRestore Illumina Face Mask with code MESSY at https://irestore.com/MESSY #irestorepod Lola Blankets - Lola BlanketsGet 40% off your entire order at Lolablankets.com by using code MESSY at checkout. Experience the world’s #1 blanket with Lola Blankets.

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm Christina Applegate. And I'm Jamie Lynn Sigler. And this is messy.
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1:02.3	Hello everybody. Welcome to Messi. This is Jamie. And I'm joined by. Oh, wait, sorry.
1:07.3	Well, I was just going to, I thought you were still swallowing your fruit punch. So it was just delaying time.
1:28.0	That was my Earl Gray. Oh, that was your tea. Okay. Yeah Yeah, Christina of the Apple Gates. That's right. And welcome to messy. We have a guest today that I've been very excited to talk to ever since I saw the title of her book. Because when I saw the title of her book, I was like, oh my God, I'm not the only one. Our guest today is a psychotherapist, a licensed clinical social worker, an author, and a
1:34.0	meditator.
1:35.4	Getting into the mental health space through her own healing journey, she supports people
1:39.6	on their journey of returning back to themselves, incorporating spiritual elements with deep shadow work
1:45.5	she created, this integrative compassion-focused approach to therapy, incorporating the mind,
1:52.0	the body, and the soul. I found, like I told you her through her groundbreaking debut self-help
1:58.8	book, Are You Mad at Me? Exploring the idea of
2:02.7	people-pleasing. I cannot wait for this conversation. Please welcome to Messy Meg Josephson.
2:08.6	Thank you for having me. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much for coming. You know, it's like,
2:16.0	I think we all wrestle with things and until we speak
2:21.9	them out loud, we assume we are the only ones suffering from them. And in the spirit of messy
2:28.9	and what we do here, it's about giving a voice to those big voices in our head that have narrated things
2:39.1	and possibly tainted perspective and reality in many ways. And so first, before we get into the
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