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Hard Fork

Are We Past Peak iPhone? + Eliezer Yudkowsky on A.I. Doom

Hard Fork

The New York Times

Technology

4.55.2K Ratings

🗓️ 12 September 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

“There's only so many things that you can do to redesign a glass rectangle in your pocket.”

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0:00.0

The other big news of the week is that Larry Ellison, the founder of the Oracle Corporation,

0:05.2

just passed Elon Musk to become the richest man in the world.

0:08.6

Yeah, and I love this story because there was an incident that I filed away in my catalog

0:15.6

of moments when straight people write headlines that gay people find hilarious.

0:21.9

So I don't know if you saw the version of this story on Bloomberg,

0:26.1

but the headline is,

0:27.7

Ellison tops Musk as world's richest man.

0:31.0

And I thought,

0:32.4

he's doing what?

0:35.3

Is that a privilege of becoming the world's richest man as you get a top number two?

0:42.3

And this is why they need a representation of gay people on every editing desk in America.

0:48.6

Exactly.

0:48.7

Kair a gay copy editor Bloomberg.

0:50.9

You'll save yourself a lot of headaches.

0:57.8

I'm Kevin Russo Tech columnist at the New York Times.

1:00.4

I'm Casey Noon from Platformer.

1:02.1

And this is Hard Fork.

1:03.4

This week, the new iPhones are almost here, but is Apple losing the juice?

1:07.9

Then AI Dumer-in-Chief, Eliezer Yudkowski, is here to discuss his new book.

1:13.2

If anyone builds it, everyone dies. I wonder what it's about.

1:31.8

Well, there was a big Apple event this week.

1:38.7

On Tuesday, Apple introduced its annual installment of, here's the new iPhone and some other stuff.

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