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A.I. School Is in Session: Two Takes on the Future of Education

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The New York Times

Technology

4.55.2K Ratings

🗓️ 5 September 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

“I think that A.I. is going to help break, in a sense, the university model that has anyway reached a certain kind of end game,” says the Princeton professor D. Graham Burnett.

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0:00.0

Well, Casey, today we've got a very special back-to-school episode where we're going to talk about AI and education.

0:07.4

Oh, I thought we were going to start school over from scratch like Billy Madison.

0:11.9

No, that would be fun, though.

0:13.7

But this is roughly the year 3 BCE in the world of education.

0:19.5

By that, I mean before before chat chippy T existed.

0:22.9

How do you like that?

0:24.1

Wait, we're now three years before chat chpt existed?

0:26.6

God damn it.

0:29.5

Somebody needs to do his math homework.

0:33.3

God.

0:35.9

That one sounded great in my head.

0:37.8

Yeah, I bet.

0:38.8

That was a real banger.

0:46.2

I'm Kevin Rus, a tech columnist at the New York Times.

0:48.7

I'm Casey Newton from Platform.

0:50.2

And this is hard for.

0:51.3

This week, it's our back-to-school episode.

0:53.8

Big thoughts on how AI is changing classrooms from K-12 to college,

0:58.2

featuring interviews with Alpha School co-founder McKenzie Price

1:01.3

and Princeton Professor D. Graham Burnett.

1:04.1

Plus, students weigh in on how they see education changing in real time.

1:08.8

Have you ever thought of getting an education, Kevin?

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