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Hard Fork

Charlie Kirk and Online Rage + Inside Trump’s Chip Flip + This Week in A.I.

Hard Fork

The New York Times

Technology

4.55.2K Ratings

🗓️ 19 September 2025

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

“We as a culture are optimizing for rage now.”

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0:00.0

Are you watching this alien Earth show?

0:01.9

No.

0:02.4

Okay, first of all, it's so good. It's my favorite thing I've seen this year. Second of all, one of the subplots is that there is a character who is a kind of like, you know, synthetic, a humanoid person, and she has mastered the alien's language. So she can communicate with the language, presumably using some sort of machine learning. Yeah. And it's paying huge dividends for her. Because that alien is eating a lot of people.

0:24.1

He's living her alone. presumably using some sort of machine learning. Yeah. And it's paying huge dividends for her.

0:21.6

Because that alien is eating a lot of people.

0:23.6

He's leaving her alone.

0:25.6

And that's why communication is so important.

0:27.6

I do think that interspecies podcasting is going to be huge.

0:31.6

Yeah?

0:32.6

Like I recently got a pitch.

0:33.6

There was a, you know, a PR person I know who was sort of telling me, oh, you know,

0:38.5

we have this AI company we're working with, and they're learning how to translate whale

0:42.7

song using AI. And would you like to have the founder on? I said, no, but I'd love to have the

0:48.1

whale on. If the whale would like to come on hard fork, we would love to interview the whale.

0:55.0

I have so many questions for a whale.

0:56.8

Well, like, what would you ask?

0:59.1

Feelings on SeaWorld, Free Willy.

1:03.1

Let's talk about what it's like at the bottom of the sea.

1:06.9

Tell us about the most interesting krill and plankton you've come across recently.

1:10.9

I feel like you don't actually have a lot of questions for this whale.

1:14.1

I like the idea, though.

1:15.6

In the old days, it was Dog with a blog.

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