When the world wants to shut your heart down, it not only shuts you down to the pain,

but it also shut you down to every other emotion and the joy. And when you can walk back

gently and lovingly to meet your pain, you will find something more radical, and that's joy. Joy is worth fighting

for every day, no matter what.

Hi, this is Monica Packer, and you're listening to About Progress, where we are about

progress made practical.

Times are tough, and one of the trite refrains we often hear is to choose to be happy.

But what if that advice skips the very heart of healing?

In this interview, you'll hear Dr. Tanmeet Sati share why joy is not

the same as happiness and why reclaiming joy must start in the body. With both clinical expertise

and lived experience, Tanmeet explains how healing the nervous system, using breath, connection,

and even grief can become a doorway to a deeper, more sustainable joy. I have to say this is one of the

most monumental interviews I've ever personally had and what I've returned back to over and over and

over again. This originally aired back in 2023, and I have since referenced it to countless people

and Tanmeet's book as well,

Joy is My Justice is so phenomenal, you must read it.

Whether you're feeling stuck, burned out, or numb, this conversation will meet you with truth,

compassion, and hope.

That interview is coming up after a quick break for our sponsors.

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