When you hear the phrase be bold, doesn't make you think of carrying

megaphones or being super blunt or maybe even turning people away from you.

Living boldly is less about how loud you are and much more about being true to

yourself and as you give yourself space to do that you're also giving space to

the people that matter most to you to live that way too. Today we're going to

discuss how to live and love more boldly. Welcome to About Progress. I'm

Monica Packer, a regular mom and recovering perfectionist. He when covered

the truest model to dramatic, belasting, personal growth. It's progress made

practical. Join us to leave the extremes behind and instead learn how to do

something to grow and ways that stick. If you like this podcast then you'll

love my foundational course on identity called Finding Me. It is hard to live

boldly and to be true to yourself when you don't know who that self is. Finding

me helps you uncover you. And roll now with our new free buddy pass by going

to aboutprogress.com slash finding me. As women it often seems easier to tap

down on who we are to leave those opinions unshared to not stand up for what

we want and need even with the people that are closest to us. Especially because

sometimes we feel like that boldness could potentially negatively affect those in

our lives. And none of us want to be that person, right? But what if being bold

and having solid relationships weren't competing needs? What if they were

complimentary? Today you're going to hear an interview I did with Jess

Frue. She's a podcaster but also a mom and a stepmom, a wife and an ex-wife

who wants you to know that not only is life better on the other side of being

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