All right, my friends, we are going to forego the intro music and all the hoopla there to just

get right into this bonus episode.

If you listen to the episode I did earlier this week with Christine Lawler.

You'll know that we also talked about my own sleep patterns

and the problems I have with it.

And she really basically gave me her free session on it and I wanted to provide that here as a way to help you

But I didn't put a part of the main episode because it felt a little bit too gratuitous to myself

and also extended the interview time.

So we're attaching that separately for those of you who do have more sleep issues and want to

dive deep and what that looks like.

So here that is for you, it's all unedited. And then I also ask her some other questions that I didn't include in the original episode about her own sleep patterns and just something she's working on in her life that I hope you enjoy.

So thanks so much for being here and let's dive in.

So this is so helpful. I've already learned a lot and like you said, this is very counterintuitive.

And it is already going against some things that I thought I should be doing.

How about we walk people through this and if you don't mind if we can use me as an example because

I'm not totally sure how else to dive into helping someone repair their sleep

patterns. So for me a typical night is going to bed between 1130 and 1230 and that's like a good night and then waking up around six.

Okay. And I would like to go to bed, like I would like to be asleep by 10 and waking up at 5.30,

because that's what my family means.

And I wake up at 6 usually because of my baby or you know my alarm so it's usually between

six and six thirty that I'm not so how do I actually start this how do I actually start this? How do I start repairing this sleep and you know that's just a good normal night other nights I have all these other things you've described about getting up in the middle and not going back to sleep, laying down in bed forever.

It does take me a long time to fall asleep at night too.

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