Hello everyone and welcome to talk nerdy. Today is Monday July 31st

2023 and I'm the host of the show Kara Santa Maria and as always before we get

into this week's episode I do want to thank those of you who make

talk nerdy possible.

As you've noticed, we have not been reading many ads this year.

Ads have slowed up sort of industry wide across

podcasts and more than ever we're really relying on support from

individuals just like you. We use a public model using Patreon it's very similar to public television here in the US or

public radio like NPR or PBS. We're going to call it Kara's version of NPR or PBS. It is my Patreon page. If you are interested

in pledging your support all you've got to do is visit Patreon.com slash

talk nerdy to learn more.

You can pledge on an episodic basis

and at a low level, I think it's like $2 an episode,

something like that.

You can get an ad-free version of the show.

This week's top patrons include Daniel Lang, David J. E. Smith, Mary Niva,

Brian Holden, David Compton, Gabriel F.

Harameo, Joe Wilkinson, Pasquale de Latti, and Ul Rica Hagman.

Thank you all so so much.

All right, so this week I had the opportunity to chat with Dr. Luana Marquez.

She's a psychologist at Harvard Medical School.

She's also the director of the Community Psychiatry Program

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