Hello everyone and welcome to talk Nurdy. Today is Monday August 7th,

2023 and I'm the host of the show Kara Santa Maria. And as always I want to

start by thanking those of you who make TalkNurdy possible each and every week.

Remember, TalkNurdy will and will always be, as long as I'm making the show, a hundred percent free to download.

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Compton, Gabriel F. Jaramillo, Joe Wilkinson, Pasqualee-Jelati, and Ulrika Hagman.

Thank you all so much.

All right, well, let's dive into this week's episode.

It's a really good one.

Fascinating topic, and I'm always excited when it's something that we really

have never talked about before. So we had on the show Dr. Susan Golden Meadow

she is the Beardsley Rummel Distinguished Service Professor in the Departments of Psychology

and Comparative Human Development and the Committee of Education at the University of Chicago. In 2021, she won the Rommel Hart Prize in Cognitive Science.

She's also a member of the National Academy of Sciences and the American Academy of Arts

and Sciences.

She wrote a new book that's so fascinating.

It's called Thinking with Your Hands,

the surprising science behind how gestures shape our thoughts.

So we're going to be talking all about language,

development, communication, gestural language,

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