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Disordered: Anxiety Help

Anxiety Recovery: The Attitude Shift (Episode 010)

Disordered: Anxiety Help

Josh Fletcher and Drew Linsalata

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.9665 Ratings

🗓️ 19 May 2023

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

This week on Disordered, Josh and Drew talk about the all-important attitude shift that has to happen as part of recovery from an anxiety disorder. Recovery is spearheaded by behavioral change but that behavioral change also has to foster an attitudinal shift that moves you from trying to eliminate your anxiety to a consistent intentional tolerance of discomfort that will teach you that you can handle anxiety and don't have to fear it any longer. That's a key step toward decreasing your anxiety levels over time and a shift in attitude is important in this respect.

You'll also hear both Josh and Drew have realizations about the missing attitudinal shift that kept both of them stuck in the early stages of recovery. The guys both come to the conclusion that the "relapses" they experienced were based primarily on relying on technique without allowing that important shift in attitude.

If you're feeling like you're constantly being pulled back to "square one" this might resonate with you.

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Disclaimer: Disordered is not therapy or a replacement for therapy. Listening to Disordered does not create a therapeutic relationship between you and the hosts of the podcast. Information here is provided for psychoeducational purposes. As always, when you have questions about your own well-being, please consult your mental health and/or medical care providers. If you are having a mental health crisis, always reach out immediately for in-person help.


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0:00.0

When you techniqueify something that removes the willful from your tolerance.

0:07.0

I have a technique now, and therefore I don't have to worry about anxiety anymore.

0:12.0

And I think it does speak to attitudinal shift because, sadly, the shift that we're talking about is one that says,

0:19.0

oh, I'm doing this in order to experience the most extreme of the sensations and the thoughts. It's an attitude. It's not a technique. And that's the attitudeial shift. I'm going to stop there. I don't want that yet. But that's okay because I think would you agree that that shift takes a while to get to? Nobody just takes, nobody just gets that on day one.

0:38.0

Damn it, I didn't panic. I was hoping to go to have the full experience today so I could practice.

0:42.9

That's the shift. It's not just the willingness to step forward to it. It's also not seeing

0:47.4

anxiety as a failure.

0:52.2

Welcome to Disordered. This is episode 10 entitled The Attitudinal Shift. Today we're going to talk about the idea that recovery lies on the other side of a shift in attitude because you could be doing all the recovery things, but if you don't do them with the right attitude, or at least a well-adjusted attitude, you could wind up frustrated. I am Drew Linzalata, co-host of

1:11.5

Disordered, a clinical mental health counseling graduate student and therapist in training here in the

1:16.5

U.S. And I'm Joshua Fletcher, also known as anxiety. Josh. I'm a qualified psychotherapist here in the

1:24.3

UK, specializing in anxiety and anxiety disorders and also a previous sufferer.

1:30.1

Yeah, welcome aboard, everybody.

1:31.3

Thanks for coming back to listen today.

1:33.4

So should we start with a question from the audience because it kind of speaks to this?

1:39.0

Yeah, we've been enjoying the voicemail feature, and we've had a brilliant question that ties in with today's topic.

1:46.0

Should we roll clip?

1:48.0

Sure, let's roll the clip. Let's do it.

1:50.0

Let's hear the question and we'll get into today's topic because I think it ties into that.

1:53.0

Here we go.

1:54.0

Hey, so I'm a super big fan of you guys.

1:58.0

I've been following both of you since my panic disorder started about six months ago.

2:04.6

And you've been really helpful in my recovery journey.

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