Anxiety Recovery: Who Gets The Credit? (Episode 009)

Disordered: Anxiety Help

Josh Fletcher and Drew Linsalata

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.9 • 665 Ratings

🗓️ 12 May 2023

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Disordered, Josh and Drew discuss why recovery is so dependent on learning that when you handle anxiety, fear, and uncertainty, YOU GET THE CREDIT FOR DOING THAT. Recovery hinges on seeing, then dropping all the safety devices and rituals so you can see through actual experience that YOU handled the discomfort without needing anything or anyone to save you.

The guys talk about the idea of unconditional OK-ness, and learning that in all the time that you've been searching for tools and techniques and methods for managing your anxiety, it's always just been you getting the job done. All those other things deserve no credit because in the end, you are all you need and you are capable even without all the magic things that you think protect you.

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0:00.0	One of the big messages is getting the credit.
0:05.0	I did a hard thing. Nothing else saved me.
0:08.0	A lot of recovery is not caveating it with external things that get the credit for your bravery and courage.
0:15.0	The brain will rewire itself when you show it, you can willfully tolerate the discomfort and the uncertainty that
0:24.8	the threat response throws at you. What we're really passionate about, though, is about
0:28.5	you getting the credit or tolerating uncertainty. But ultimately, you want I'm okay,
0:35.0	even if, as opposed to I'm okay as long as.
0:38.7	And you're left with no other conclusion to draw.
0:41.7	Like, oh, even without conditions on my okayness, I can handle this.
0:46.5	It takes a while to learn that, though.
0:52.2	Welcome to Disorders.
1:05.0	This is episode nine, entitled Who Gets the Credit? My name is Joshua Fletcher. I'm a psychotherapist and author specializing in anxiety and I live in the UK. And I am Drew Linzalata. I am a therapist and training and a graduate student in clinical mental health counseling,
1:11.0	and I live in New York in the U.S. Welcome. Welcome to Disordered. Drew, you said you wanted to start
1:19.2	with a did-it anyway today for our episode, who gets the credit. Yeah, let's flip things on its head. Why not? We're the bosses. We're the rulers of our own destiny. You know what we want? We know what we do? What we want to do. That's right. Yeah. So. Start by celebrating the wins of some of people out there, some of our listeners. Sure, sure. Hang in there. People are going to get really radical. Do it anyway to begin the podcast. So I have one, again, name with hell to protect anonymity, unless you ask us to say your name, which would be happy to do. This person says, I had an overwhelming panic attack eight weeks ago. Last time I had one was 25 years ago. My biggest fear since this one is the fear of losing control. It's since finding a new way to interact with
2:01.1	my panic, I'm kind of accepting letting it wash over me and do nothing. I'm new here, but with the
2:07.1	knowledge now and all the information I'm getting, I'm learning. So that is a little achievement
2:11.4	for me and I'm really proud of it. A little achievement. It's a huge achievement. Big achievement.
2:16.9	Well done. That's a lot. That gets a applause. It's a huge achievement. Well done.
2:18.0	That's an absolute.
2:19.1	That gets applause.
2:19.4	Really.
2:24.4	I'm a big fan of the do nothing as well.
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