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Disordered: Anxiety Help

Intrusive Thoughts ... Just Thoughts? (Episode 011)

Disordered: Anxiety Help

Josh Fletcher and Drew Linsalata

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.9665 Ratings

🗓️ 26 May 2023

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

This week on Disordered, Josh and Drew discuss scary, unwanted, recurring, intrusive thoughts that can frighten us and trigger high levels of anxiety and discomfort. The guys talk about the many different themes that intrusive thoughts cover including thoughts about harm, sexuality and sexual orientation, relationships, health, death, and existential issues. While intrusive thoughts are usually associated with OCD, they are generally present for almost anyone that struggles with any anxiety disorder.

This episode also examines the idea that "thoughts are just thoughts", which is true, but doesn't really accurately validate the intense anxiety and threat response that so many unwanted intrusive thoughts can trigger. Josh and Drew also discuss the idea that you cannot decide to not have thoughts, and that having disturbing or scary thoughts does not mean you are broken or a horrible person, even when the thoughts themselves are telling you that.


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Disclaimer: Disordered is not therapy or a replacement for therapy. Listening to Disordered does not create a therapeutic relationship between you and the hosts of the podcast. Information here is provided for psychoeducational purposes. As always, when you have questions about your own well-being, please consult your mental health and/or medical care providers. If you are having a mental health crisis, always reach out immediately for in-person help.



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0:00.0

The brain needs to flip through, you know, a bit like a picture book. Brain kind of does that

0:06.6

with a spectrum of all the probabilities and the outcomes of a certain event. Or we would be on the

0:12.0

roofs of the buildings and it'd be like, you can just jump right off there right now. You know that, right?

0:15.3

And I'm like, yeah, I know. It's really weird. These intrusive thoughts, as you know,

0:19.8

become really, really sticky.

0:22.6

Oh yeah.

0:23.6

Then things went off the rails for me.

0:25.6

I had intrusive thoughts.

0:27.6

They were always about death and existential themes.

0:30.6

I also had health-based intrusive thoughts.

0:33.6

Those were the two main themes for me, and they would just repeat again and again and again. It's almost cliche now, isn't it? Thoughts are just thoughts. Those were the two main things for me and they would just repeat again and again and again.

0:43.3

It's almost cliche now, isn't it? Thoughts are just thoughts. Well, actually some thoughts do stand out above others, but some thoughts just evoke an anxious response, a threat response.

0:52.6

Welcome to Disordered.

0:54.2

This episode is called intrusive thoughts, just thoughts.

1:00.1

We're going to be talking about some weird and funky thoughts today, taboo thoughts.

1:07.2

My name is Joshua Fletcher, also known as Anxiety Josh, and I'm a psychotherapist based in the UK.

1:13.6

I am Drew Linzalata.

1:14.8

I am a therapist in training and a graduate student in the United States, an author and a podcaster on the subject of anxiety and anxiety disorders.

1:22.7

Welcome to episode 11.

1:24.5

Let's do it.

1:25.2

You ever had intrusive thoughts, Drew?

1:27.1

Oh, I had more intrusive thoughts than I

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