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Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso

Antwaun Sargent: Young, Gifted and Black

Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso

Lemonada Media

Society & Culture, Film Interviews, Tv & Film

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 22 October 2020

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

With the art world in flux, writer and critic Antwaun Sargent (The New Yorker, NY Times) joins us this weeks. We discuss the turbulence inside museums across the country (3:20), the potential (creative) silver-lining of this pandemic (7:44), the impetus for his new book, Young, Gifted and Black (11:00), and how Instagram (sort of) democratized photography (17:30). Plus, Antwaun unpacks our culture’s recurring fetishization of firsts with black excellence (23:04), and why the the art world is in desperate need of reshuffling (28:56). Before we go, a virtual exhibit of selected pieces from YGB. Follow along at talkeasypod.com/antwaun


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0:00.0

Pushkin.

0:07.0

This is talk easy. I'm Sam For Grosso. Welcome to the show. Hey yo, yo, Hello everyone. Thank you for being here. Today on the

0:38.2

podcast I am pleased to have on writer and art critic Antoine Sergeant. He has written for the New York Times, the

0:46.2

New Yorker, Vice, W magazine, the Nation, interview magazine, the fader, the list goes on. Where there are words about art, there's the Guard, photography between art and fashion.

1:03.8

It was a piece about the ways in which representation plays on our

1:07.8

psyche and shapes our realities.

1:10.8

Now he has a new book that he's recently edited called Young Gifted and Black, a new generation of artists.

1:18.0

It's about black collectors, artists, and curators doing the work to ensure that black art is made, seen, valued, and preserved.

1:28.3

It also, as you probably gathered from the title, is introducing this young emerging wave of creators.

1:36.3

Now the reason I wanted to have Antoine on in this moment is because I don't know about

1:42.4

you I really miss going to museums. I have found

1:46.8

it really hard to channel any amount of energy into art during this election season.

1:54.0

So for the next 45 minutes, Antoine and I are going to fix that.

1:59.2

First, he's going to set the stage for what's been happening in the art world during the pandemic and what we can

2:07.2

expect the future of museums to look like. We also dive into the existing power structures that make it really difficult for young men and women of color to break into the system,

2:20.0

to get work at a place like Vogue, to get written about in the New York Times.

2:25.0

As a writer, critic, and historian of the art world,

2:29.0

Antoine has this unique ability to describe the details of the big picture.

2:35.4

He offers a window into how these institutions operate and how these artists create.

2:42.4

Then finally, before we leave in the final 15 minutes of this

2:46.6

podcast, we've assembled a kind of virtual exhibit for you. Together, Antoine guides us through six pieces from his book,

2:56.4

Young Gifted and Black. While you're listening you can look at those pieces on

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