Pushkin. This is talk easy. I'm Sam Fricoso. Welcome to the show. Hey yo, yo, you,

yo, Hey everyone. Thank you for being here. Today on the show we have Rucker

Bregman. He's a Dutch philosopher, historian, and author, but you likely first heard of him

from two different viral videos. The first was a monologue he delivered at Davos, railing against the hypocrisy of an event that warns

of our climate crisis and yet has participants from around the world flying in on their private jets.

The second video was his spat with Tucker Carlson.

It was an unaired interview that showed the Fox host getting increasingly irate over Bregman's criticism. We walked through both

of these events in our talk. But most recently he has a new book out titled humankind and makes an argument that we don't

hear presented very often that most people in their nature are actually pretty decent. He makes the case for

human decency backed by science and history. This may sound terribly

simplistic or obvious but that's why I wanted to have him on.

Especially this week, as we enter the home stretch of this election cycle here in America.

I have a feeling you may be as worn down as I am.

The pandemic has exacerbated what would have already been a draining election.

And so in contemplating what would have already been a draining election.

And so in contemplating what our collective future

could look like, I thought Rucker's positive philosophies

may be of value to you and I right now. I'm still not entirely

convinced by everything Rucker says and writes, but I do think he has something here.

A fundamental belief that most people But I do think he has something here.

A fundamental belief that most people, despite what we see on the news, on social media,

most people are mostly all right. Is that hopelessly naive? Maybe. But I'll take that

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