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I'm delighted to be joined today by Candice Owens, the now very famous host of the Candice Owens show,

who is making quite a lot of noise in the media because she is being sued or threatened with legal action by the Macron's,

Emmanuel and Brigitte Macron, the President and First Lady of France.

Because Candice, you believe that Bridget McRour is a man.

Why do you think the Macroix are choosing to sue you?

Because they were trying to stop the story.

I think it was an effective PR strategy.

They had been suing and harassing the journalists that had initially brought the story forth to the French public for years. And then they lost their defamation suit against the two journalists, Amandine Roy, Natasha Ray. And that was pretty explosive news. So I think that they then filed suit against me and knowing that it would drive potentially the most media traffic to kind of say, oh, no, but it still isn't true at all. I know we lost this affirmation case in our home turf, but we're now going to try it in America just to kind of signal to the press that they're not lying.

But I mean, if you wanted the story to go away and knowing a little bit about you, as they probably do by now, certainly her legal team will, this is not a very sensible strategy for making the story go away if they're worried that it's true and they want it to be covered up. Yeah, actually, if you look at the history of them as a couple, they haven't been very good at PR.

And I think that the reason that is, is I'm not quite sure they understand the differences, the nuances between America and France, the United States and France, where they live, they can and they have sue journalists for cyberbullying.

I mean, really petty things to say,

you're not allowed to do this in France. It's, what, 60 million population of 60 million people.

So I do actually think they also don't even understand the media podcasting world. I do think it was poor advice. I think their advisors made the wrong decision. And we saw this even

recently, the disaster of their PR when Brigitte was caught assaulting McCrone on the plane.

I mean, they lied. They forcefully lied. And then they essentially disappeared the story the very next day from the French press.

So they're used to having that kind of power.

It's that clip that makes me think you're wrong, you know, because I'm pretty sure she punches

like a girl.

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