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Hello and welcome to Table Talk, the Spectators Food and Drink podcast. I'm Olivia Potts.

And I'm Laura Prendergast. And today we are delighted to be joined by Brett Graham.

Brett is the man behind the three Michelin starred, The Ledbury, in Notting Hill, which is celebrating its 20th anniversary this year. He's also the director of the Harwood Arms in Fulham, London's only pub with the Michelin Star. Brett, welcome to table talk. Thank you very much, having me. Brett, as our listeners know, we always start at the very beginning. What are your earliest memories of food? It's a question I get asked quite a lot

that because, you know, I grew up in Australia in the 80s and food wasn't the sort of thing that was,

or food and ingredients wasn't the sort of thing that was centre of conversation really.

And we definitely weren't the sort of family that were at the backyard picking apricots before

breakfast. I remember dinners for us

were like usually a piece of meat, meat with microwaved peas, that sort of thing. And my mum's

speciality was tin salmon lasagna. I can remember her making that on a special occasion. We're growing up

at that time, like I said, food wasn't a real passion for anyone in terms of trying to

source out ingredients or new restaurants and dining wasn't the way it is in modern times now.

So the sort of memories I can remember, a lot of it was around barbecues in Australia as well

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