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Hello and welcome to the Americano podcast. This is an election year. Will Donald Trump be re-elected?

What is going on with the Democrats? And has America gone even more crazy? We'll be discussing all of these things and more, more than once a week, because we don't feel you have enough Americano in your life.

I'm delighted to be joined by the spectators Dominic Green,

who has just written an interview with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo

that will be going live on the Spectators' American website tomorrow. And it's a very broad ranging interview

in which you discuss the sort of philosophy of Mike Pompeo, at least as far as international

relations, is concerned. And I think it's fair to say you're quite an admirer.

You're no sycophant, Don, but it comes across that you are quite impressed by how Pompeo,

as you put it, turns Trump's instincts into reality.

Well, hello, Freddie.

And I have to say, I did think Pompeo came across as extremely intelligent and also very good at balancing the two

impulses, as Henry Kissinger called them, the two impulses in America's dealings with the rest of the

world. And one of them is the idealistic impulse, the one that says the United States is a new

and different venture and therefore has a

moral obligation to export its values. And the other is the traditional, very hard-headed,

realist view of interests and alliances and how basically to obtain security and good export and

import terms for your businesses. And these,

of course, as we've seen, are frequently out of balance in American foreign policy. The Bush

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