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Hello and welcome back to the Americano show, where we talk about power, politics and prejudices in American life.

Every week we will talk to at least one or two or possibly three or four American experts, international experts about

American affairs. And you can also catch us on Spectator TV on YouTube as often as you like.

Please keep listening and watching. Today we are going to be talking about Trump's drug war

because the latest edition of the

spectator in America is Trump's drug war. Maga has found the military conflict it once,

says Ben Dominic. And I was very amused. I think Ben was amused too to see the reaction to

this on Twitter when we posted on Twitter. It went

semi-viral, I think we could say. A lot of people, a lot of MAGA supporters, Trump supporters,

thought that we had sort of self-owned in some spectacular way. They seemed to think that the

spectator was some very anti-Trump magazine that had accidentally done a

beautiful bit of Trump propaganda. When the truth is, actually, we don't do Trump propaganda

and we don't do anti-Trump propaganda. We just try and make interesting editions of our great

magazine. Ben, first of all, did you see some of this reaction? I think you did.

We discussed it a little bit. And I should have mentioned that the Department of Homeland Security,

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