Hello and welcome to the Americano podcast, a series of discussions about American power,

politics and society.

On each episode, I will talk to an American expert or an expert on America about something

that's going on in America in

2023. On this episode of Americano, we're going to revisit the subject we covered in the last one,

because in our last podcast, loyal listeners will remember, we had Seymour Hirsch, the American

journalist, talking about his theory,

his piece on Substack, that America took out the Nord Stream pipelines.

There was a fair amount of criticism on Twitter about the podcast, about Seymour Hirsch,

a lot of people calling him a crank and so on, And various people suggesting we got in touch with Oliver Alexander,

who has been doing a lot of work debunking Seymour Hershey's thesis.

And he joins me now.

Oliver, thank you very much for coming on.

And thanks for having me.

I should introduce you.

You are an open source intelligence analyst based in Denmark.

And before we get on to the Seymour Hirsch debunking, can I just ask you what's your working theory? I know it's changed a little bit

recently, but what's your working theory as to what happened to the Nord Stream pipelines?

It's hard to say. I don't have like a conclusive theory because I have circumstantial evidence that suggests

that possibly Russia was involved.

That's where my circumstantial evidence points.

They had motive to do this through some contract negotiations in regards to Nord Stream

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