Today on the Grave Talks, Ghostland, a conversation with Colin Dickey.

When Colin Dickie set out to write about American ghost stories and hauntings, he did not quite know

what to expect. Through his research, he dove deep into some of the most storied haunted houses,

asylums, prisons, and cities the United States has to offer. Along the way, he'd find true,

dark stories of a malevolent past, along with facts that sometimes simply did not line up

with reality or history. Just how many of the infamous American haunted location stories are accurate

and how many have a tale to tell that is much darker than we ever imagined. Well, right. I mean,

I grew up in San Jose, California,

so I grew up down the road from the Winchester Mystery House,

which was a huge component in my last book,

Ghostland in American History and Haunted Places.

And I think that probably my proximity to the Winchester Mystery House,

that was one of the things that really started it,

you know, sort of taking those tours as a kid,

being in that crazy wild Victorian house

that seemed to go on forever

and hearing those stories.

The other cool thing about San Jose

is the Rosicrucian Museum,

which is this crazy Egyptology museum smack in the middle of the suburbs,

which is another thing. We used to take, you know, tours like when we were, you know,

school kids, we would take field trips there. And so those two kind of weird spaces, you know,

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