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Am I "Anti-Mormon"?

Girlscamp

Hayley Rawle

Documentary, Personal Journals, Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.51.5K Ratings

🗓️ 15 October 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

In the wake of the horrific shooting at an LDS church building in Michigan, ex-Mormon content creators (myself included) have been hit with backlash and accused of ‘fueling hate.’ I break down why I think that’s mostly bullshit—while also exploring where it’s worth pausing to consider the line between ex-Mormonism and anti-Mormonism. From there, it’s a true mixed bag: Mayci Neeley’s Secret Lives of Mormon Wives book tour soundbites, the downward trend of self-identified orthodox Mormons, my newfound niche interest in polygamy (thanks to Christine Brown Woolley’s new book about life on Sister Wives), and more. Christine Brown Woolley’s book Mormon Stories panel on “anti-Mormonism” Mayci Neeley’s NPR interview SL Tribune article on Mormon’s abandoning orthodox beliefs Join the Girlscamp: After Dark Patreon account ⁠⁠here⁠ for two bonus episodes per month and more. For more Girlscamp content follow along on ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠, ⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠. For ad inquiries please email [email protected]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

G-I-R-L-S-C-A-N-P-S-K-E-N-P-S-K-K-E-N-P-E-S-K-K-E.

0:11.7

Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Girls'Camp podcast.

0:14.2

I'm your host, Haley Rawl, and in the spirit of spooky season, I decided today to tackle one of the spookiest topics of all Mormonism.

0:26.3

I'm only partially joking. I'm kind of trying to make this fit the theme because I'm actually

0:32.0

recording at night right now. If you're watching on YouTube, I have never done this

0:36.7

except for when I did

0:38.1

spooky stories last year, and I'll probably record those at night later this month as well.

0:44.8

But it worked out to record this at night. It is the month of October. Halloween is in the air.

0:51.1

And to be fair, Mormonism can be quite spooky. I've gathered an assortment of

0:56.8

Mormon-related things that I want to talk about today, so we're just going to do a mixed bag

1:01.8

of Mormon and Mormon-adjacent thoughts and feelings. The first thing I wanted to address,

1:08.2

which I have kind of touched on here and there, if you've

1:11.8

been following along closely. But I announced at the beginning of this year in January that I

1:17.0

was going to be pivoting the content of Girls Camp, of this podcast, away from Mormonism,

1:24.3

or at least from focusing so much on Mormonism. And I've actually been very self-conscious

1:29.8

because I keep finding myself drawn back to Mormon topics. And I do think I have expanded the topics

1:40.1

that we cover here. I do episodes where Mormonism is not the focus at all, but I'm kind of

1:47.2

surprised, I guess it's surprised me personally, how much I still feel like I have to say about

1:54.0

Mormon stuff. And I think a big part of it is because the world just keeps offering up things to talk about in the world of Mormonism. And I was feeling so

2:05.1

mired in Mormon stuff, which is why I wanted to make a pivot. And I wanted to do, the reason I made

2:13.6

it like some big announcement is because I really wanted to have a clean break from

2:18.7

the Mormon stuff. I just felt like that would make more sense. It seemed more clear to me just to be like,

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