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Erica, how are you? Hi, good. How are you? Good. I guess I forgot to say, this is Kimmy Kulp,

and I am the host of Aldaweiser. And I'm with, you guys know her by now, are very talented, soon to be married, Erica Gerard.

Yes, soon to be married in like three weeks.

Woof.

We're going to have pictures to share with you on Instagram, follow us, all the Wiser

podcast.

Today we are going to dive into last week's episode, which was with two guests, Matthew and Tim.

And for those of you who have not listened, it is a unthinkable story of forgiveness and high level, go back and listen because

it's just, it really is so powerful and hearing them both share their perspectives. But Tim as a

teenager was a Nazi skinhead, which is what we're going to talk about today, white supremacy,

the Aryan nation, skinhead culture which is what we're going to talk about today, white supremacy, the Aryan nation,

skinhead culture and what that looked like and how it ultimately led to the alley where

Timothy beat Matthew for being a gay person in the world nearly to death. And decades later later they would meet again for the first time

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