I used to always say like it's not personal, it's business where I don't feel like that at all anymore.

I've learned that they are so connected and we take our shit with us wherever we go.

And to own that and to tell people that and to be really transparent about that is just such a better way to live. In our imagination, anything is possible, this is our imagination.

Hi guys, it's Kathy Heller.

Welcome back to the Kathy Heller podcast.

Today is a great conversation with Ali Webb. It's so vulnerable. She really

shares all the hard stuff and the beautiful stuff and the breakthroughs and the

challenges that she's gone through over the last few years.

You guys probably all know her because she created Drybar.

So I'm really just so proud that she was willing to have this kind of a conversation. I think it's so important

that these conversations about what's really going on in people's lives that we have these

conversations. So we're going to dive into that. Speaking of real conversations, if you want to join me every week in the quilt, we meet once a week and there are so many added yummy bonuses coming for members of the quilt and it's a time for us to come together in real

honest connection. We meditate, there's coaching, there's time for hot seats, it's a time for sisterhood and the women who are in there are really

really connecting in such a beautiful way being such a celebration for each other, a witness for each other as we go through these journeys together.

And I'd love to see you in there. If you want to join us, go to Kathy Heller.com slash quilt and be a part of it.

So as I said, today's conversation is really amazing. You probably all

know Ali Webb because she founded Dry Bar. She's also the co-founder of Squee's

Brightside Beckett and Quill canopy and she's a New York Times best-selling

author, and she's also a business advisor.

We had her on the show a few times before, and she was talking about how she grew the dry bar,

and now she's back because her new book just came out this week and it's called The Messy Truth, how I sold my business for millions, but almost lost myself.

And in the book, Ali shares her story of reinventing her personal and professional life,

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