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Welcome. Welcome, everybody to the Untold Story podcast.

Today I'm really excited to be joined by Judge Shene Puro,

co-host of the five and extraordinary person and great friend.

Janine, good morning.

Great to have you with us.

Oh, great to be with you, Martha.

So obviously, you have been covering this Murdoch case extremely closely over the last few years since the murders happened on June 7th, 2021.

And yesterday, we got a huge development in this case.

And last week, a series that I worked on called The Fall of the House of Murdoch dropped on Fox Nation. So a lot is going on in this case. I did an interview with Buster Murdoch for that, which was pretty extraordinary to sit down with him and get his first-hand account. So let me start by asking you, what did you think?

Explain what this clerk was doing and why now there's an opportunity for Alec Murdoch

to potentially get an entirely new trial.

You know, Martha, first of all, your Fox Nation special is terrific, but let me say that there

are very few things that could cause this case to be overturned.

I watched the trial, as you indicated.

It was a trial where there was damning evidence.

You had a defendant who lied, a defendant who had

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