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This is Design Matters with Debbie Millman from Design Obser.

This is Design Matters with Debbie Milman, from Design Observer.com.

For 11 years now, Debbie Milman has been talking with designers and other creative types

about what they do, how they got to be who they are, and what they're thinking about.

On this podcast, Debbie Milman talks with Allison MacDell

about how identifying herself as a lesbian when she was young

led her into a career as a cartoonist. I became an outlaw at a young age and was

very freed up to do whatever I wanted and I was not to, I was writing this crazy marginal comic strip for free.

It was not a great career path and bizarrely it has worked out.

Here's Debbie Millman.

For some artists, their work in their lives

are so intertwined it's impossible to tease them apart.

Allison Bechtel is one such artist. To talk about her work is to talk about her her cartoons and graphic novels lay out the intimate

intricacies of her life and all their heartbreaking

splendor. Her long-running comic strip Dykes to watch out for is one of the major

achievements in the comics genre. Her graphic memoirs, Un Home, and Are You My Mother, brought her work to a mainstream audience.

In 2015, Fun Home was adapted as a Tony Award Winning Broadway musical and it's still going strong.

She joins me to talk about her work which is to say her life.

Allison Bechtel welcome to Design Matters.

Thank you Debbie I'm very happy to be here.

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