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War on the Rocks

Ain't No Party Like a World Order Party

War on the Rocks

War on the Rocks

News, Politics

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 14 May 2018

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Three talented scholars join Ryan in this episode to tackle questions about the future of the international order. ​ Conversations about this topic can often be insufferably dry, but this one definitely isn't -- and not just because of the adult beverages being imbibed as the episode unfolded. Join Mira Rapp-Hooper, Rebecca Friedman Lissner, and Stephen Wertheim for a meaty, fascinating, and historically informed jam session on the future of U.S. power and influence. 

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0:00.0

You are listening to the War on the Rocks podcast on Strategy, Defense and Foreign Affairs.

0:14.0

My name is Ryan Evans, I'm the editor-in-Chief of War in the Rocks, and we have a very special episode.

0:18.0

Every War in the Rocks podcast episode is special, but this one's especially special,

0:22.0

because I have three great guests who are three very

0:25.6

talented young rising scholars, two of whom I'm lucky to be close friends with and Stephen

0:30.4

maybe we'll get there one day, but we'll see.

0:32.4

If you're lucky. But if we can move this way. and Stephen maybe we'll get there one day. We'll see.

0:32.6

If you're lucky.

0:33.6

But if we can move this way and introduce yourselves?

0:36.6

I'm Mira Rob Hooper.

0:38.2

I am a senior research scholar in the China Center at Yale Law School. Among my other affiliations. I'm also a senior editor at

0:45.2

War on the Rocks and once upon a time Stephen was my TA.

0:48.6

Really? That is true. I mean I wasn't allowed to actually grade your papers. But you were still my T. You were there. You did an excellent job in class if I may say. Thanks.

1:00.0

I'm sure Mary got an A. I am Rebecca listener. I am a research fellow at Perry Worldhouse, which is the University of Pennsylvania's Global Policy Research Center.

1:11.0

And I'm Stephen Wertheim.

1:12.6

I am a lecturer in history at Birkbeck, part of the University of London.

1:17.0

There's an interesting TA chain in this room.

1:20.0

So you were Mira's TA, Stephen, and Mira, you were Usha Sah T.A.S.A.S.

1:24.2

Our managing editors T.

1:25.5

That I was.

1:26.5

Actually, maybe the same time, Stephen was my D.

1:30.3

It was very meta.

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