Hello?

Hi, Karen.

It's me.

Amy, how are you?

I know, I know.

I feel like it.

I mean, it's maybe been like a couple of weeks, but it feels like two years.

Yeah, long.

You used to talk like every day.

You might have heard me mention my co-reporter on this season, Karen Savage, in the credits of every episode.

And you've heard her voice a couple times too, but she's been a really big part of this season behind the scenes, and especially on our website where Karen has been writing stories that go along with each episode.

She's also the person I've called all season long to help make sense of this story, or to help remember where this or that document is, or who said what and when.

So I wanted to bring her in for this last episode, where we're going to try to make sense of this story as a whole, and what it means in the context of climate.

Today, we're going to update you on what's happening for the Ecuadorians, and dig into why we decided to tackle this story in the first place.

Plus, what we learned from it, and what it has to do with climate change.

That's all coming up right after this quick break.

Like most people, Podsave America, co-host Tommy Vittor, thought foreign policy was boring and complicated until he got the education of a lifetime working for President Obama's National Security Council.

It was a crash course that taught him two things. Anyone can understand these issues, and we all have an obligation to try.

That's why he started Podsave the World, a weekly podcast from Crooked Media that breaks down international news and foreign policy developments, but doesn't feel like homework.

Each week, he and former Deputy National Security Advisor and co-host Ben Rhodes walk you through the latest developments with a variety of experts.

Count on hearing behind-the-scenes stories, funny anecdotes, and maybe even a few F-bombs along the way.

New episodes of Podsave the World drop every Wednesday.

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