Hi, this is Against Everyone with Connor Abbeb.

A weekly podcast featuring my conversation with countercultural figures and presenting complex,

philosophical, spiritual, and political ideas in an engaging and accessible way.

I'm so excited to welcome my good friend, Caitlin Doty, back to the show.

Caitlin was on Against Everyone with Connor Bebeb episode

eight. She is a mortician. She is the host of the wildly popular YouTube show, Ask a Mortician.

She is the author of two best-selling books, Smoke Gets in Your Eyes, and also this book about

death rights around the world from here to eternity.

And she has a new book coming out called Will the Cat Eat My Eyeballs? Big Questions from Tiny Mortals

About Death. As you can tell, Caitlin is death-obsessed. She started the Death Acceptance Collective, the Order of the Good Death,

and she goes around the world talking about death and what we need to do to prepare for our

deaths, both in a material way and in a sort of inner way.

Caitlin and I have done a lot together. We've done courses together. I've done her web series. We hang out and we support each other in a lot of ways, meaning, you know, we help each other out through our projects and sort of help push through to the other side of some of the activism that we're doing and lean on each

other when we need to. And some of that stuff comes up in this episode. One of the ways in which

it comes up is I talk about a friend who, a friend of mine who died recently, a very close friend,

and the ways in which I was struggling, not necessarily with the acceptance of his death, but the ways in

which culture was viewing how I was processing his death, culture meaning people in my life,

but also my thoughts about how culture responds to that. We also talk about those struggles in

activism, that burnout that we can feel from doing the work

we feel from being in public and how to face it without whining about it or luxuriating

in it too much and what to do when that kind of stuff shows up and what Caitlin and I do.

So I hope that this episode is helpful for people

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