Hi, this is Against Everyone with Connor Abeeb, a weekly podcast featuring my conversations with

countercultural figures and presenting complex, philosophical, spiritual, and political ideas in an

engaging and accessible way. This week, I am joined again by the great Duncan Truzzle, host of the

Duncan Truzzle Family Hour, a podcast which has really

been instrumental in me getting to the place where I am today. You probably all know Duncan

as the crazy, mystical, philosophical weirdo who makes us all crack up while he's contemplating the cosmic, uh, bizarro frequencies

of the universe, technology, politics, magic, and more. Like I said, Duncan's had a really

instrumental part in my life.

And it's because I listened to his podcasts and was so inspired by what he did, how integral his podcast is, that I wanted to have Duncan on another time.

He'll probably be on again after this.

I've been on a show, I think, four or five times now. and I want him to keep coming on mine because I think we have great conversations,

but there are different conversations on his show than they are in mine. On my show, this episode particularly, I want to talk with Duncan about utopia, what utopia might look like, what a better

world might look like if he and I decided to

envision it together. And it takes us in a lot of weird directions, really surprising directions,

and I'm really excited to share this conversation with you. So it's funny, it's accessible,

and it's utopian. I also want to give a shout out to Angela Gaidon, who helped make possible the fixing of the sound of this episode, which was staticky and scary, probably because psychic demons sent by the government infected the wires while I was recording or just because I

screwed up somehow. So thank you, Angela. All right, this is the part of the podcast where I

tell you to pay for the podcast by going to patreon.com forward slash Connor Abeeb. You know,

podcasts are a lot like porn. We

download them for free. We expect them for free. And yet tons of hours, labor time, money,

research, et cetera, go into making a good podcast. And I know I spend tons of time and money

making this podcast. And I would really like to be able to fully fund it and have it really just be what I do for a living while I'm doing all my other weird projects out there in the world at the same time.

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