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This week's adult education, I've got Elizabeth April coming on.

She's got a book that is all about anxiety.

It's called Your Anxiety is Giving Me Anxiety, and I cannot wait to just dive in and chat all things anxiety.

Thank you so much for coming on the show.

I love talking about anxiety, and I feel like every time I post something about how I've helped my anxiety or how I've walked through different seasons. So many people

want to follow up with the conversation because it's also something they're dealing with.

And I think that's why I like talking about it because, you know, I have the tips and tools

that have helped me walk through my seasons of it,

and they've been wildly different seasons, but they've all, it's been there.

And so I always love to learn more about other people that have dealt with it, how they got through it.

So this is going to be fun.

Whoever thought talking about anxiety would be fun, but I love it.

Me too.

Okay.

So for you, when did your anxiety start?

I was a kid.

So probably around, you know, five or six years old is when I first sort of consciously recognized that

something wasn't quite right. I didn't have the word anxiety. Neither did my parents. It wasn't a

conversation in the 90s, but it was so evidently there. So I actually have a question about that

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