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🗓️ 25 March 2020
⏱️ 84 minutes
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Sofie talks to Vidhya Ramalingam about responding to online hate, Moonshot CVE, being the woman of colour at a far right rally, interviewing white supremacists, insecurity, and why the internet makes her hopeful.
Trigger warning – corona virus, Nazis, precarity, hate, violence, anxiety, panic attacks, white supermacists, racism, white nationalism, the far right, eugenics, conspiracy theories, paranoia, xenophobia, KKK, online abuse, trolling, neonazis, therapy, social work, trauma, fatphobia
Artwork by Justine McNichol
Jingle by Harriet Braine
Produced by Dave Pickering
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0:00.0 | My feeling is that most people in these movements are not happy and that's actually something that we need to latch on to when we're trying to pull people out of these movements because we need to show them that actually there is another way even if you're stuck even if you think |
0:14.5 | you're stuck in a white supremacy movement you can get out there is a way out. |
0:18.8 | You are listening to made of human also known as the Mole |
0:23.0 | a podcast hosted by Sophie Hagen |
0:26.8 | who is a Danish comedian |
0:29.5 | Mole. |
0:30.5 | Trying to find out how to do life |
0:35.0 | But it turns out |
0:39.0 | nobody knows Mop. |
0:40.0 | Nobody knows Mop. Oh, thank you for listening. I guess there's not much else to do in these times and this is how weird this entire situation is I was about to say for |
0:58.0 | those of you not in the UK but then I realized that of course this is |
1:01.8 | international But then I realized that of course this is international. |
1:03.7 | If you're listening in the future, hello, this is a |
1:07.8 | podcast recorded during the coronavirus. |
1:11.6 | If you are listening from the distant future, I at the moment no one really knows what's going to happen. It looks bad. Let's not, let's, I hope this, let, I'm going to try and not talk about |
1:28.8 | that particular thing for more than, from now on, because I don't want this to be a sad thing I want this to be something where you can |
1:40.0 | take your mind away from it. So to set the scene, I'm sitting on my bed in the middle of my |
1:49.2 | tiny studio flat amongst all of my furniture, which has been pushed into the middle and put on |
1:55.4 | top of each other. I cannot access anything. This is why I have to record this |
2:00.3 | intro on my phone because my microphones are I don't even know because I'm |
2:05.7 | painting my entire flat am I allowed to that no I'm not I'm of course not allowed to do that |
2:09.7 | I rent but landlords can go fuck themselves and also this project has been taking me three days |
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