Welcome to Our Hen House. This is Jasmine Singer. This is Marianne Sullivan. And this week,

Marianne will be speaking with Laura Lee Cascada. Laura has a number of different roles in the

animal rights movement, but we wanted to

especially catch up with her about her recent campaign to forestall an octopus farm in Hawaii.

This is a classic example of how much one committed person can do to change the trajectory of

animal harm. And it's very inspiring. She has so many

roles within the animal rights movement and, you know, she's doing a lot of great things. But when

I just think that wildlife, and we talk about this a bit, wildlife activism is really an opportunity

for us to step out of, you know, our regular roles and get engaged in a specific campaign.

Like, it kind of reminds me of the Tully L campaigns that we've talked about and, and other things.

I think they're, they really energize people and, you know, they do unbelievable amounts of good,

especially when, as happened here, the activism comes early so you

could actually keep something from happening. So this is great. Laura, of course, has been on before.

It was a pretty long time ago. I actually didn't really look about it was. And it was about her

book, Deli's Run, which is a novel about a chicken who plays baseball.

And that was a great interview as well.

But it's been a long time since she's been on.

And she is just a terrific activist.

Very excited to chat about this.

And yes, I love multifaceted activists so much.

So before we get to some of these articles,

we wanted to cover for rising anxieties,

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