Welcome back or welcome to the Finding Mastery Podcast.

I'm Michael Jervay.

And the idea behind these conversations

is to learn from people who are on the path of mastery.

To better understand what they're searching for,

to understand their unique psychological framework, which is how they understand how the world works, how they understand how they work, and they fit in the world.

And we also want to pay particular attention to the mental skills that they use to build and refine their craft.

And we're not interested in just what the mental skills are, but how they apply those

mental skills. What are the sturdy and robust practices that they've employed and developed to be able to weather the storms,

to be able to deal with adversity, to be able to become resilient without losing the toughness

required to excel in rugged and challenging environments.

And just on that quick note, you know, resilient, being resilient is wonderful and it's important to be able to be to blend and be flexible and to adjust to whatever the demands are

but not at the cost of being tough and hard and having a tough underbelly at the same time.

And so that balance between the two is strikingly challenging to experience.

And it's that life pursuit that allows Masters of Craft and people that are fully developed, I think, to be able to have both that flexible and that hard or tough side to them.

So anyways, in this conversation we get to touch on some of that.

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