Welcome to Media Roots Radio. This is Abby Martin.

And this is Robbie Martin.

So Robbie, a lot's been going on. I've been busting out a bunch of episodes for Empire Files. You came out with this amazing finale to your epic trilogy about neocon operatives in D.C. called Maintaining the World Order. A very heavy agenda is, of course, the umbrella documentary. Maintaining the World Order is the third part just released on Vimeo.

Everyone needs to check it out. It is absolutely epic.

And I just wanted to do like a quick interview with you, not quick, but I mean just an interview

with you about the movie and just kind of going over some things because it was so awesome.

And I feel like there's other things that I want to know and people who've

seen the movie maybe want to know too or just have you expand on some points. Yeah, let's do it.

Let's do it. First, you know, anyone who's seen the first two parts kind of realize that a lot of

it is clips telling the story themselves. It's not, you're not putting in your opinion very much. You're kind of realize that a lot of it is clips telling the story themselves.

It's not, you're not putting in your opinion very much.

You're kind of letting the clips speak for themselves.

And that's kind of an interesting way to do a documentary.

What made you want to do it in that style?

I mean, you know, you're already familiar with the two projects that I just was doing before a very heavy agenda.

So, I mean, in a way, it kind of started, I guess, with American Bisk, which is definitely more of an experiment.

And at the time I made American Bisc, I mean, just to answer your question,

more succinctly, is that I had always had an interest in doing movies from raw footage

because, you know, because of, like, filmmakers like Adam Curtis and people like that.

And, you know, like Power of Nightmares is mostly, it is mostly raw footage. Adam Curtis and people like that.

And, you know, like Power of Nightmares is mostly, it is mostly raw footage.

There is no, there's only a couple sections in a few interview, interviews he did, where he splices it in.

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