Do you meditate?

I was just...

But you're not a meditator.

I downloaded Headspace.

I used it once for like 10 seconds.

And you're like...

I got distracted.

I got shit to do.

Then I put in one of those folders in your phone, like little app folders, and then I pulled it back out recently, and then I'm like, I'm going to use it. I'm going to put it like I put it in a really prominent location, like somewhere next to my emails. I'll try to use it all the time and I never use it. Do you get stressed? Of course. Everyone gets stressed.

If they say you don't, then either you're some kind of like monk that I don't understand or you're a liar.

Absolutely, I get stressed. So it's all about how you handle it, I guess. I think I feel like I stress myself out all the time. That's kind of like how I

motivate myself. Like I put myself like my back against a wall and I feel like fight to get out of it.

I feel like stress is like my, it's like my, my energy, I guess. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, in a weird

sick way. And then do you feel like you have to like release yourself from the stress? The only way I release myself is by finishing the project, you know, like checking the box.

Right.

Okay, like, you know, there's no way like, oh, I'm going to go relax or like take a vacation.

Like that doesn't really mean from the stress.

If the project isn't finished, I could be on a beach and bore a bore and if that thing that's stressing me out isn't done yet or handled, then I'm stressed. Yeah, yeah. That's why those meditation things don't work for you.

I haven't tried them, so maybe it will work for me. I just honestly haven't given myself the proper

time to go do that. Maybe driving is my meditation, I guess. Right. In LA, you get like an hour

and a half of downtime silence. Exactly. Yeah. I have a pre-flight checklist. What does that mean?

Because I'm not so used to, like, recording podcasts.

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