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Hi and welcome to the A16Z podcast. I'm Hannah and today we're talking about bike sharing in our

cities. This conversation includes, in the order in which you'll hear them, Councilman Lee

Kleinman from Dallas, Texas, who's the chairman of the Mobility Solutions Infrastructure and

Sustainability Committee, Joshua Shank, the chief innovation officer at L.A. Metro,

and Andrew Savage, VP of BD. from Limebike. This is a moment where we seem to be seeing a whole new

wave of bike sharing. What's different this time? From docked bike sharing to dockless, where users can

find and unlock bikes with GPS from a widespread fleet anywhere with an app? Will bike sharing actually

change our cities? What will we learn from previous waves of bike sharing that succeeded in some

aspects and not others? And how might the widespread adoption of bike sharing really change, perhaps

even shape the cities of the future? So I guess I want to ask a really big question, which is, you know, we hear all

about how we expect car sharing and autonomous vehicles to really change the shape of the city,

what it looks like, how we interact with it. Do you think that bike sharing, both perhaps dockless

or docked, actually has the ability to change the city to the same degree, or is this just sort of recreational?

We look at it as a transportation option. The deployment is much less expensive than car share,

and the footprint is much smaller. We are facing doubling of the size of North Texas

in population in the next 50 years, and we cannot build enough roads that just

can't do it for cars. Even with autonomous vehicles and car share and all those kinds of things,

we have to take everything we can get to move people around as an alternative to the car.

I think bikes will transform cities more than autonomous vehicles over the next 20 to 30 years.

And that's because autonomous vehicles are largely going to be transformative in the safety arena in terms of reducing accidents.

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